Mail Archive of the old Santa Clara Valley Lutheran Parish

I adjure you by the Lord that this letter be read to all the brethren. (Thessalonians 5:27)


Subject: Re: [SCVLP] Insurance Question

Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:19:39 -0800

From: John Goldstein <johngold9@gmail.com>


Received: by 10.101.29.30 with SMTP id g30mr6317621anj.33.1321388383264;
        Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:19:43 -0800 (PST)
X-BeenThere: scvlp@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.150.18.15 with SMTP id 15ls574633ybr.7.gmail; Tue, 15 Nov 2011
 12:19:42 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.101.214.38 with SMTP id r38mr2182534anq.35.1321388382827;
        Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:19:42 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.101.214.38 with SMTP id r38mr2182533anq.35.1321388382796;
        Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:19:42 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <johngold9@gmail.com>
Received: from mail-yx0-f179.google.com (mail-yx0-f179.google.com [209.85.213.179])
        by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o24si4156611ybh.1.2011.11.15.12.19.42
        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
        Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:19:42 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of johngold9@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.179;
Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of johngold9@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=johngold9@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com
Received: by mail-yx0-f179.google.com with SMTP id m6so732730yen.38
        for <scvlp@googlegroups.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:19:42 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
        h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject
         :date:references:x-mailer;
        bh=AFJNEIPIuPlBM4CaLiCL+TmZrFS7ZdXAPGKTVhjNmBY=;
        b=BEQNPNlqHgW1sLHt8aYabXmYBViYs1hs3gNn6DkR3dM/9F7l+Z+SXn1FtbGqZoSg/n
         s//KabAV+Ij7IXENSqKhdMjOsxKCHvcpl1XFcJhV+GtJfkgX9Z3LJAT28PwLwAI4tg7q
         83wxlpPKyDc6qedNp7ld+ojYhiVuAVFM7nPVE=
Received: by 10.68.199.6 with SMTP id jg6mr58753458pbc.26.1321388382319;
        Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:19:42 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <johngold9@gmail.com>
Received: from [192.168.1.2] (adsl-99-63-78-30.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net. [99.63.78.30])
        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f2sm39035831pbg.14.2011.11.15.12.19.40
        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
        Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:19:41 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <10E38F87-8171-4A58-97FF-FB28D055180F@gmail.com>
From: John Goldstein <johngold9@gmail.com>
To: scvlp@googlegroups.com
In-Reply-To: <CALQXsuQ+RrM5i+-n4=HczdBiP_Y=7H-i0+Q_r8CMJT4u_v34kg@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--516204037
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936)
Subject: Re: [SCVLP] Insurance Question
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:19:39 -0800
References: <CALQXsuQ+RrM5i+-n4=HczdBiP_Y=7H-i0+Q_r8CMJT4u_v34kg@mail.gmail.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936)

--Apple-Mail-1--516204037
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset=US-ASCII;
	format=flowed;
	delsp=yes
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I would recommend speaking with Fritz Hahn of Ministry Pacific. He has  
plans specifically tailored for Lutheran Churches and specialized in  
Insurance for churches and non profits.. His quote on coverage came in  
$1,000 LESS than Church Mutual and offered more extensive coverage.   
He can address this request which to me, is a rather absurd request.

Fritz Hahn
Ministry Pacific
Cell 415 999 0559
Office 916 481 6080

John Goldstein, Lead Pastor
Pastor@GraceChurchof Evergreen.org

Grace Church of Evergreen
2650 Aborn Road
San Jose CA 95121
www.gracechurchofevergreen.org
408 274 1200
Cell: 510 584 1810
Receive our weekly 'Focus on Faith'. Simply request by sending a reply  
email!

The information contained in this email message may be privileged,  
confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not the  
intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is  
strictly prohibited. If you think that you received this email message  
in error, please email the sender at pastor@gracechurchofevergreen.org

On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Pastor David Schick wrote:

> Hi Colleagues,
>
> We have a little insurance issue/debate going on here at Immanuel.   
> A representative from our liability insurance, Church Mutual, has  
> suddenly contacted us asking our council to pass a resolution  
> indicating we will keep a log of every volunteer who does anything  
> for the church or comes on our property, when they're here, and what  
> they're doing. As you can imagine that can literally mean dozens  
> (some weeks even hundreds) of log entries in a busy week. We're  
> asking who would keep that, how would it be managed, etc. Since none  
> of us have ever heard of anything like this before, we're wondering  
> if any of the rest of you are encountering something similar. Is it  
> new? Peculiar to one insurance company or type of coverage?
>
> Any insight to this that you can provide will be appreciated. If you  
> have someone in your congregation who has more knowledge about this,  
> we appreciate being able to contact them.
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
>
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google  
> Groups "SCVLP" group.
> To post to this group, send email to scvlp@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to scvlp+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com 
> .
> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/scvlp?hl=en 
> .


--Apple-Mail-1--516204037
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webk=
it-line-break: after-white-space; ">I would recommend speaking with Fritz H=
ahn of Ministry Pacific. He has plans specifically tailored for Lutheran Ch=
urches and specialized in Insurance for churches and non profits.. His quot=
e on coverage came in $1,000 LESS than Church Mutual and offered more exten=
sive coverage. &nbsp;He can address this request which to me, is a rather a=
bsurd request.<div><br></div><div>Fritz Hahn</div><div>Ministry Pacific</di=
v><div>Cell 415 999 0559</div><div>Office 916 481 6080</div><div><br><div a=
pple-content-edited=3D"true"> <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"bor=
der-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-s=
tyle: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: no=
rmal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-inden=
t: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing:=
 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spaci=
ng: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust=
: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style=3D"=
word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-=
white-space; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: s=
eparate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; f=
ont-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-heig=
ht: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space=
: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effe=
ct: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; f=
ont-size: medium; "><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode:=
 space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class=3D"Apple-style=
-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family=
: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; f=
ont-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2=
; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; w=
ord-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-ve=
rtical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text=
-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style=3D"word-wr=
ap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-s=
pace; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate=
; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-styl=
e: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: norma=
l; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;=
 white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizont=
al-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorat=
ions-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-w=
idth: 0px; "><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;=
 -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helve=
tica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-wei=
ght: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-=
indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spa=
cing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-=
spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-a=
djust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style=3D"word-wrap: bre=
ak-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "=
><div><div><div>John Goldstein, Lead Pastor</div><div>Pastor@GraceChurchof =
Evergreen.org</div><div><br></div></div><div>Grace Church of Evergreen</div=
><div>2650 Aborn Road</div><div>San Jose CA 95121</div><div><a href=3D"http=
://www.gracechurchofevergreen.org">www.gracechurchofevergreen.org</a></div>=
<div>408 274 1200</div><div>Cell:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbs=
p;</span>510 584 1810</div><div>Receive our weekly 'Focus on Faith'. Simply=
 request by sending a reply email!</div><div><br></div></div></div></span>T=
he information contained in this email message may be privileged, confident=
ial and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, a=
ny dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you th=
ink that you received this email message in error, please email the sender =
at <a href=3D"mailto:pastor@gracechurchofevergreen.org">pastor@gracechurcho=
fevergreen.org</a><br></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span> =
</div><br><div><div>On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Pastor David Schick wrote=
:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi=
 Colleagues,<div><br></div><div>We have a little insurance issue/debate goi=
ng on here at Immanuel. &nbsp;A representative from our liability insurance=
, Church Mutual, has suddenly contacted us asking our council to pass a res=
olution indicating we will keep a log of every volunteer who does anything =
for the church or comes on our property, when they're here, and what they'r=
e doing. As you can imagine that can literally mean dozens (some weeks even=
 hundreds) of log&nbsp;entries&nbsp;in a busy week. We're asking who would =
keep that, how would it be managed, etc. Since none of us have ever heard o=
f&nbsp;anything&nbsp;like this before, we're wondering if any of the rest o=
f you are encountering something similar. Is it new? Peculiar to one insura=
nce company or type of&nbsp;coverage?</div> <div><br></div><div>Any insight=
 to this that you can provide will be appreciated. If you have someone in y=
our congregation who has more knowledge about this, we appreciate being abl=
e to contact them.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div> <div>Thanks,</div><div>David<=
/div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placehold=
er"></div> -- <br> You received this message because you are subscribed to =
the Google Groups "SCVLP" group.<br> To post to this group, send email to <=
a href=3D"mailto:scvlp@googlegroups.com">scvlp@googlegroups.com</a>.<br> To=
 unsubscribe from this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:scvlp+unsubsc=
ribe@googlegroups.com">scvlp+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>.<br> For more=
 options, visit this group at <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/scv=
lp?hl=3Den">http://groups.google.com/group/scvlp?hl=3Den</a>.<br> </blockqu=
ote></div><br></div></body></html>
--Apple-Mail-1--516204037--

  Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional

Last updated 2025-09-18 13:29:00 by Webmaster